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lionel
17-Jun-2009, 11:41
Not quite finished this yet, but I couldn't resist posting this quotation and my comment about this story of two Nam vets in a V.A. hospital - one a black guy (Braiden) with only a head and torso, and the other (Walter) white with no face. I'll add to this later, but so far this is the only joke in a very grim book:

'They were having preaching one Sunday morning in this black church and they had a new piccolo player playing along with the choir. Well, they played two or three songs there and somebody all of a sudden hollered out in this real deep voice, The piccolo player's a motherfucker. Everybody hushed. The old reverend was up in the pulpit and he looked out over the congregation. He was just shocked. He said, Who was that called my piccolo player a motherfucker? Nobody said a word. Everybody was looking around to see who it was. The old reverend stood up there for a minute. Said, All right. I want the man who's setting next to the man who called my piccolo player a motherfucker to stand up. Nobody said a word. The old reverend was just getting madder all the time. He said, All right. I want the man who's setting next to the man who's setting next to the man who called my piccolo player a motherfucker to stand up. And hell, nobody stood up. Nobody said a word. The old reverend stood up there and just got pissed off as hell. Then he hollered, All right! I want the man who's setting next to the man who's setting next to the man who's setting next to the man who called my piccolo player a motherfucker to stand up. Finally there was this one little bitty guy in the back who stood up. And everybody was looking at him. He said, Reveren, I ain't the man who's setting next to the man who's setting next to the man who's setting next to the man who called your piccolo player a motherfucker. I ain't even the man who's setting next to the man who's setting next to the man who called your piccolo player a motherfucker. And I ain't the man who called your piccolo player a motherfucker. What I want to know is, who called that motherfucker a piccolo player?'

Walter is relating the joke to Braiden to ease the tedium of life in the hospital, cheering up his new friend, passing a sleepness night as best he can, but there's more to it than that. The repetition in the joke itself echoes the awful, repetitive nature of the life the man with just a head and torso - and the man with no face - are forced to live. The punchline, of course, is a masterpeice of absurdity, as are so many jokes in general: having denied that he called the piccolo player a motherfucker, 'one little bitty guy' proceeds not only to call the man a motherfucker, but to deny that the man is a piccolo player. He turns the narrative in on itself. From one personal point of view we move to two: yes, this piccolo player is a motherfucker, but he is no piccolo player either. A man under attack can lose his self-esteem, but 'one little bitty guy' takes away his raison d'?tre. This joke is saying far more than it appears to be saying on first impression: it's demolishing the existential integrity of the two men - something like 'I didn't call you men freaks, but I'd like to know who called you freaks men' - but at the same time it's reinforcing that very integrity through the medium of shared humour. Yes, it's also a very warm book. There's something very Beckettian in this paradox.

lionel
18-Jun-2009, 22:11
The Beckettian paradox in particular that I was thinking of was 'He doesn't exist, the bastard', from Endgame. Then you get to thinking that others must have been there first, and maybe a good place to look for the impending death of Big Gee is in the middle-class patriarch of the Victorian family. Wow, did this guy have problems, from the smelly working classes demanding electoral reform, through literary takes on various issues like Tennyson predicting Darwin in the fossils, through Coventry Patmore's Angel in the House burning her bra (OK, I not only ridiculed the poor angel, but I anacronized her), to Arnold (in 'Dover Beach'), thinking about the receding sea of faith on his honeymoon. As you would if you were a hot-blooded, sexually deprived dude in those days, right?

Cut to Arthur Hugh Clough, who was infested by the monsters causing the degeneration of the Victorian mind, and who wrote pretty advanced sexual stuff - in coded language - that severely embarrassed his unfortunate widow. Ahh. But what did Clough say about Big Gee?:

'O joy and terror! mirth and woe!
Ting, ting, There is no God; ting, ting,?
Dong, there is no God; dong,
There is no God; dong, dong.'

The bells tolling the glory of God say he doesn't exist. A Beckettian paradox 100 years before the man himself. Tough stuff, this Clough.

What about Larry Brown? Coming soon.

lionel
19-Jun-2009, 10:54
Ah yes, Dirty Work (1989). So, two Nam vets in hospital, one black (Braiden) with only head and torso, one white (Walter) with no face, just talking and thinking. Brown has been dubbed the king of 'Grit Lit', but it seems an unnecessary term for what is in effect another variety of Southern Gothic, as in Erskine Caldwell or, more significantly, William Faulkner: Brown also lived in Oxford, Mississippi. And he also plays with voices.

There are two central voices here, and the book shares them out reasonably equally. Braiden goes on mental trips and imagines a history without the white scramble for Africa, an unnamed African country where he's king. This helps him cope with the fact that, apart from during these internal monologues, there's not a moment goes by when he doesn't wish he were dead. In the end, Braiden forces Walter to put him out of his misery, but before that a strange thing is happening.

The action, such as it is, takes place in the Deep South, in a very poor state of the Union where blacks were once slaves and lived according to the whims of their white masters. In Dirty Work, though, Braiden can't work, and Walter has to do it all: he tells Braiden stories. Continuous, autobiographical stories which Braiden never interrupts, just listens to. In return for this work, Walter (an alcoholic) is rewarded by cans of beer and dope that Braiden's sister, the nurse, smuggles in for him.

That's it really, but as well as a reversal of the master-slave role, this is also an unconventional version of One Thousand and One Nights, with Walter playing Scheherazade not in order to save his own life, but in a way to save Braiden's mental life. Before he persuades him to kill him.

This novel is a very powerful indictment of war, and Brown's dedication page reads 'For Daddy, who knew what war does to men' (Brown's italics).

saliotthomas
07-Sep-2009, 13:00
Hey Tony
I guess i first heard of Larry Brown after your post so i missed it.
I loved Father and son and shall read Dirty work in a while(as well as most i shall find from Larry).
Reading your three post i can't figure out if you were anthousiate or not about it?

lionel
08-Sep-2009, 01:11
Hey Tony
I guess i first heard of Larry Brown after your post so i missed it.
I loved Father and son and shall read Dirty work in a while(as well as most i shall find from Larry).
Reading your three post i can't figure out if you were anthousiate or not about it?

Hi Thomas
Yes, I was very impressed indeed by Dirty Work, and intended to read Father and Son later. Trouble is, I read Joe right after, and it somehow put me off reading any more Larry Brown, as I just found it disappointing after Dirty Work. But let me know what you think of it.

Changing the subject completely, how you ever read any Eric Chevillard? I don't often read translations - almost never French to English as I don't need to ? but this was the only one readily available of Au plafond, which I've just read. Very odd.

Dr Tony Shaw (http://tonyshaw3.blogspot.com/)

saliotthomas
13-Sep-2009, 13:45
Never heard of Eric Chevillard before but here is a Link( in French).
eric chevillard - Chevillard ?ric (http://parfumdelivres.niceboard.com/auteurs-francais-a-decouvrir-nes-apres-1915-f40/chevillard-eric-t2728.htm?highlight=eric+chevillard)
It does sound a bit twisted and acrobatic.Not a proirity in future reading.
I bought Fay by Larry brown...