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saliotthomas
30-May-2008, 16:39
After the Cinema come the music.I do not like the terme either but it fit the subject.

Brazil is the country who produce the music i love the most,with Vinicius de morales poete and diplomateat the very top.
The best album of his is an live recording in a bar in Argentina-Cafe concert la Fusa-with Toquinio(his all time companion) Maria Crueza and Maria Betania,female singer, each on one of the 2 CDs.This is the purest jewel of Brazilian music to me.I listen to it since the age of 10(my father)and still does,with unfatigable plaisure.
Tom jobin is of obviously of the party with the girl from Ipanema ,but i favour is album wave.A great composer and guitarist but not a very good singer(blaspemy!)
Follow the excellent Joao Gilberto,Baden powel,Jorge Ben,Gilberto Jil,chico buerque de hollanda,...
Our days brazil also produce beautifull work like Bebel gilberto,lenin,Marco Farraco,... bref it's form me the country of music "white in the lyrics and black in the soul"(vinicius)

Portugal with the beautiful and sad Fado,a sort of blues with the main figure of Cesaria Evora who gave the genre it's popularity

Italie would be famous for her classical singers i won,t name her.Paolo conte created a style of his own and is for me the best of his generation.

France and Belgiun put their energy together to creat one of the most extrahodinary in the personne of Jacque Brel,le grand jacque,with texte to tear your heart out,a complete involement in his performance.Their is song from Brel i can't listen to.Le port d'amsterdam,(Bowie had a version of it)ne me quite pas,Rev? un impossible reve,....Legendary songs
Talking about Piaf would be redondant.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZHg6AUXTKw&feature=related

Spain and the flamenco,the master of the all Paco de Lucia

Egypte with the unforgetable nightingal Umm Kulthum

Pakistan and Rahat Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

India is dificult for me,the obvious Ravi Shankar,and i have to admit a certain taste for some of the Bollywood stuff,in small doses.

Algeria with the Rai rock-arabic has some very good With Cheb Khaled at the head,Cheb Mami,..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm8tr82TEgU&feature=related

Morroco as a very good Gnawa festival,mostly percussion.Gnawa production in a good band (no more)

Nigeria with the black Elvis Fela.

Senegale and the hilarious Zao singing in french http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKP1HNfY3JE

That's it for now.

Stewart
30-May-2008, 16:55
Our days brazil also produce beautifull work like Bebel gilberto
Oh, I quite like the Bebel Gilberto album I have: Tanto Tempo. Been a while since I listened to it.


Portugal with the beautiful and sad Fado,a sort of blues with the main figure of Cesaria Evora who gave the genre it's popularity
On Fado, the only singer I know is Marika.


France and Belgiun put their energy together to creat one of the most extrahodinary in the personne of Jacque Brel,le grand jacque,with texte to tear your heart out,a complete involement in his performance.Their is song from Brel i can't listen to.Le port d'amsterdam,(Bowie had a version of it)ne me quite pas,Rev? un impossible reve,....Legendary songs
Now French music - and Francophone, to be all inclusive - I love. I'm a big fan of the music of Serge Gainsbourg. Although I don't speak French I have an understanding somewhat of his lyrics and, looking at one of my favourites, La Javanaise, he just seems to capture a moment, like a photograph, and then twist a song out of that single image. Mick Harvey, of Nick Cave's backing band, The Bad Seeds, made two albums (Intoxicated Man and Pink Elephants) of Serge's songs, translated to English. The first was truer to the original style, the second played more with the form. I also love the duet with Catherine Deneuve: Dieu Fumeur de Havane.



Algeria with the Rai rock-arabic has some very good With Cheb Khaled at the head,Cheb Mami,..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm8tr82TEgU&feature=related
I have a Rai album by Khaled.


That's it for now.
I'll add Mali, for the likes of the late Ali Farke Toure, Toumani Diabate, Amadou & Mariam, and Tinariwen.

saliotthomas
30-May-2008, 21:43
Gainsbourg is great but specialy the early years.The late years he was working a bit to much on the decadent image of Gainsbar,and his music wasn't as good.La Javanaise is a beautifull song,maybe his best.
Jacque Dutronc has done some things,with interesting texte.

saliotthomas
02-Jun-2008, 17:33
A small complement as i listen to it recently.
Cuba ,Compay Segundo,and the septetos cubano,with the great film of Wim wender and Ray Cooder.(correct me if i'm wrong)A the fabulous Celia Cruz with a voice like a machine gun.If James Brown had been a woman and Cuban,he would have been Celia-Great version of guantanamera

Mexico colorfull mariachi,not all of them playing for honey-mooners on the beach of Cancun.Paco Mitchell and his song El aventurero,the story of a casanova crossing the country is search of feminine conquest.

Sybarite
04-Jun-2008, 16:00
For those of you who enjoy French chansons, then you might also enjoy German music ? the likes of Marlene Dietrich or the Weimar cabaret songs. There are plenty of recordings still available, plus Ute Lemper recorded some cabaret songs a few years ago. Then there are recordings of Lotte Lenya singing Brecht and Weill stuff.

Stewart
04-Jun-2008, 16:22
German-wise, I really like the music of Einst?rzende Neubauten, which won't be to everyone's tastes. But they've been going for almost thirty years now so there musy be interest enough to keep going. They were extremely noisy back when they first started, battering assorted scrap metal and screaming along, but these last ten years they've really mellowed. And I finally got my chance to see them live last year.

Sybarite
05-Jun-2008, 12:09
German-wise, I really like the music of Einst?rzende Neubauten, which won't be to everyone's tastes. But they've been going for almost thirty years now so there musy be interest enough to keep going. They were extremely noisy back when they first started, battering assorted scrap metal and screaming along, but these last ten years they've really mellowed. And I finally got my chance to see them live last year.

Once we branch out in that manner, I've loved Kraftwerk for years and have recently got into Rammstein (metal meets Wagner).

Stewart
05-Jun-2008, 12:26
...have recently got into Rammstein (metal meets Wagner).
Oh, I love them. They are a fantastic live act, and I've seen them twice now. You may also like bands like Oomph!, Megaherz, and Eisbrecher, if you like Rammstein. And, at a push, a Slovenian band called Laibach, who really do mix the opera in with the industrial sound.

For metal meets Wagner, you need to go into Scandinavia. Finland is quite productive at the old symphonic metal genre, but the band that springs to mind is Sweden's Therion.

Irene Wilde
15-Jun-2008, 22:09
Because it seems a quiet day here, before I disappear into the wainscoting again, I wanted to echo the sentiments about Gilberto, Jobim (A.C. Jobim is more my favorite), Brel, Piaf, Cruz, and Conte. Humbly, I will add that although he sang in English, Sinatra certainly belongs in this group. And although she is also an English language singer, anyone who appreciates the previously mentioned arts might also like Kate Rusby's ethereal voice. And to go back to truly international music, Ladysmith Black Mambazo and the Bhundu Boys are positively infectious, and the great Clifton Chenier is absolutely toe-tapping.

Kingbee
16-Jun-2008, 15:12
From Algeria I'd like to add Rachid Taha- like Led Zeppelin's Kashmir but the real deal! Made in Medina is a fantastic album.

saliotthomas
17-Jun-2008, 20:29
Because it seems a quiet day here, before I disappear into the wainscoting again, I wanted to echo the sentiments about Gilberto, Jobim (A.C. Jobim is more my favorite), Brel, Piaf, Cruz, and Conte. Humbly, I will add that although he sang in English, Sinatra certainly belongs in this group. And although she is also an English language singer, anyone who appreciates the previously mentioned arts might also like Kate Rusby's ethereal voice. And to go back to truly international music, Ladysmith Black Mambazo and the Bhundu Boys are positively infectious, and the great Clifton Chenier is absolutely toe-tapping.

Thanks Irene for those new name,i shall look for them strait away.Sinatra and i made a mission of mudering most of his classic in the shower(washing would not be the same without francky)If you like voices Esther Philips is a great one(a bit on the nasal sometime)her album "i love him"is one on the 10 i could not live without.
I let you know went i get your music.

Oh and i just found a new one from Africa- Ang?lique Kidjo - Djin Djin (2007)a voice very like Myriame Makeba (Madame Pata pata)a beautifull version of the ravel bolero acapela with invente africain lyric-goose pimples.

Irene Wilde
17-Jun-2008, 21:01
Murdering Sinatra in the shower is a time-honored tradition -- I'm partial to fracturing "Summer Wind" myself.

I will definitely sample Ms. Philips next time I'm on iTunes.

For a first listen to Ms. Rusby, may I suggest "Who Will Sing Me Lullabies" from her album "Little Lights"? It's the song I can't listen to, but that doesn't make it any less lovely.

Stewart
17-Jun-2008, 21:37
And although she is also an English language singer, anyone who appreciates the previously mentioned arts might also like Kate Rusby's ethereal voice.
She's a really nice person, too. I met her last year at the Cambridge Folk Festival (http://www.cambridgefolkfestival.co.uk/).

Irene Wilde
18-Jun-2008, 04:34
@ Stewart,

That's so nice to know. She's certainly a pistol in concert, cheerfully joking with the audience between songs of death, dying and betrayal.

@ Saliotthomas,

I'm an idiot! A quick google of Ms. Philips and she has one of the most recognizable signature songs of all time: "What a Difference a Day Makes..." I'm going to pull a hamstring kicking myself.

Irene Wilde
20-Jul-2008, 01:17
Totally adding Charles Aznavour to my playlist. I picked up a Greatest Hits CD that, upon actually playing, I discovered featured his most known songs all in English -- which helps monolinguist me understand what he's singing about. Great voice in either language.

DouglasM
18-Oct-2008, 19:14
Surely Charles Aznavour has one of the most astonishing voices I ever heard.

Portugal's Fadois a beautiful and sad genre, I enjoy it a lot. I also like folk songs from countries of the extreme orient. Argentina's tango has to be the most beautiful and seductive dance in the world. Spain's flamenco is beautiful too, and it inspired the fandango played in Brazil's southernmost parts. French cabaret music is also awesome.


After the Cinema come the music.I do not like the terme either but it fit the subject.

Brazil is the country who produce the music i love the most,with Vinicius de morales poete and diplomateat the very top.
The best album of his is an live recording in a bar in Argentina-Cafe concert la Fusa-with Toquinio(his all time companion) Maria Crueza and Maria Betania,female singer, each on one of the 2 CDs.This is the purest jewel of Brazilian music to me.I listen to it since the age of 10(my father)and still does,with unfatigable plaisure.
Tom jobin is of obviously of the party with the girl from Ipanema ,but i favour is album wave.A great composer and guitarist but not a very good singer(blaspemy!)
Follow the excellent Joao Gilberto,Baden powel,Jorge Ben,Gilberto Jil,chico buerque de hollanda,...
Our days brazil also produce beautifull work like Bebel gilberto,lenin,Marco Farraco,... bref it's form me the country of music "white in the lyrics and black in the soul"(vinicius)


Hi saliotthomas!

Maybe you will like to know Oswaldo Montenegro, a brazilian musician and songwriter. Here goes a for the son song "Bandolins": YouTube - Bandolins - Oswaldo Montenegro - Edi??o de Imagens (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBj0BPZ3dU) (I don't know who made it, but the images have nothing to do with the song)

OutragedOptimist
12-Dec-2008, 06:42
From Mali, Salif Keita -- gorgeous, incredibly moving and inspiring.
From Chile, the folk singers Violeta Parra and Victor Jarra. And from Argentina, Mercedes Sosa and Atahualpa Youpanqui. These are all songs of social protest, daily life, politics. Actually many are also songs about exile. Violeta Parra has a song called "La Carta" all about living in France, far from her native Chile, and receiving a letter informing her that her brother has been arrested because of his dissident political views.
Oh, and the Uruguayan singer Jaime Roos. I only know a few songs here and there.
I love Jacques Brel too. And Yves Montand, Charles Aznavour.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions!

saliotthomas
14-Dec-2008, 16:14
Hi saliotthomas!

Maybe you will like to know Oswaldo Montenegro, a brazilian musician and songwriter. Here goes a for the son song "Bandolins": YouTube - Bandolins - Oswaldo Montenegro - Edi??o de Imagens (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBj0BPZ3dU) (I don't know who made it, but the images have nothing to do with the song)

Sorry i haven't seen this before,great stuuf Betelgeused.

Very interesting reference Outrageoptimist(really like you name actualy)I knew of Salif Keita,excellent.
I forgot to mention Jacques Dutronc,(husband of francois hardy)A great voice,a lazy charmer.
Here are two of my fav-
YouTube - Jacques Dutronc - Il est cinq heures, Paris s'?veille (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRE3fbaIwUQ&feature=related)

YouTube - Jacques Dutronc-Gentleman cambrioleur (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbx7tJOIpGk)

I also rediscovered Willy or Mike Deville,specialy spanish stroll,and the album Le chat Bleu,and loup garou
YouTube - willy deVille-spanish stroll(audio) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go1tuW2zfM4&feature=related)

great stuff,bit Lou reed like.

saliotthomas
24-Mar-2009, 14:40
I rediscovered Paco de lucia a few days ago and i'm hunting is records.My favorite at the moment is Entre dos aguas,excellent.The association of tablas(bongo) and guitar flamenca is great.
I played a few classical too,concerto de naranjes de Fallia.beautifull.
Also albums with Al dimeola and John Mclaughling.

Ramblingsid
24-Mar-2009, 18:48
The presence of Kate Rusby in this thread must mean that English Music can count as World Music. Though I think I saw somewhere that there is a music prize in the US that does not allow English Music in its definition of World Music so traditional music performers in England lose out.

I have seen Kate Rusby perform and have to say that even though her stage persona is very endearing and her better half is a very fine musician indeed she felt a little close to the middle of that road for my taste.

I rather prefer the ebullient Eliza Carthy myself who has produced some first class music over the years and is a forthright champion of english traditional music. Her music might seem a little rougher around the edges at times but is all the better for that in my view.

While I'm here I might as well mention Spiers & Boden two (youngish) traditional english musicians who have produced first class CDs and are quite brilliant live - as is their traditional big band manifestation - Bellowhead.

I could go on - and on - and on - but I'll spare you.

Liam
17-Apr-2009, 03:33
Personally, I listen to Classical/Chamber music most of these days.

As far as favorite composers are concerned, nobody in my book can beat the Estonians (I'm sure Eric will be pleased): Arvo Part being a clear favorite. Veljo Tormis' wonderful folk cycle Forgotten Peoples as well as his mind-blowing Litany to Thunder have given me many hours of happy rapture; also check out Artur Lemba and Lepo Sumera (Mushroom Cantata, Island Maiden's Song from the Sea, etc).

Another Baltic composer who deserves a definite mention is Peteris Vasks, from Latvia. Beautiful, quiet and religiously inspired orchestral arrangements: Distant Light, Message, Musica Dolorosa, Voices of Silence, etc. Whoever has turned their back on Christianity will experience a full-scale reconversion after hearing his Dona Nobis Pacem (I could literally feel my hair stand on end while listening to this one).

ferns_dad
25-May-2009, 20:33
Oh, I love them. They are a fantastic live act, and I've seen them twice now. You may also like bands like Oomph!, Megaherz, and Eisbrecher, if you like Rammstein. And, at a push, a Slovenian band called Laibach, who really do mix the opera in with the industrial sound.

For metal meets Wagner, you need to go into Scandinavia. Finland is quite productive at the old symphonic metal genre, but the band that springs to mind is Sweden's Therion.

Finland has some really interesting new bands, among which are Avarus, Circle, Islaja,Kemialliset Ystavat and others.

Any fans of Keiji Haino aboard? Great guitarist

Miriam
26-May-2009, 18:57
I like rock music, such bands as Iron Maiden, Queen, Masterplan, Whitesnake, Lake of tears are my favourite. Besides, I like some Russian rock groups, but just few of them are known all over the world. Heavy metal)

saliotthomas
03-Jul-2009, 09:31
I found an album of Fellini soundtracks by Nino Rota.Perfect music for a sunday morning or just anytime when you feel like somethimg different.It really does creat an atmosphere.

Here is Amarcord YouTube - federico fellini-soundtrack of"amarcord" by nino rota (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zEn0e_pnQ)

8 et demi. YouTube - 8? theme - Nino Rota (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWqC6kRCLjI&feature=related)

La dolce vita YouTube - La dolce vita / La bella malinconica - Nino Rota (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oHzAQ-lJCM&feature=related)

Try to get the album,nearly all tracks are mythic.

beelzebubbles
03-Jul-2009, 14:09
Though I think I saw somewhere that there is a music prize in the US that does not allow English Music in its definition of World Music so traditional music performers in England lose out.

That is probably because American Traditional Folk music and English Folk music are almost the same thing. English Folk music is the root of American Traditional Folk.

I imagine other American Music isn't part of the contest either. Such as Spirituals, Blues, American and European Rock and Roll that isn't strongly influenced by an African beat.

In the US, what you find referred to as World Music is pop from Africa, Asia and South America.

Ramblingsid
03-Jul-2009, 15:44
That is probably because American Traditional Folk music and English Folk music are almost the same thing. English Folk music is the root of American Traditional Folk.

I imagine other American Music isn't part of the contest either. Such as Spirituals, Blues, American and European Rock and Roll that isn't strongly influenced by an African beat.

In the US, what you find referred to as World Music is pop from Africa, Asia and South America.

Yes, I am aware that the likes of Cecil Sharpe and Maud Karpeles wandered about the appalachians and recorded a lot of traditional material and the connection is there sure enough. I always feel though that english traditional music loses out internationally compared with say scottish (hoots!) and irish (diddly diddly) music - but then I daresay it is also spared a great deal of bowdlerisation as a result.

I can't agree though that english and american traditional music are almost the same thing - you go too far there for my taste :)

There is something very distinctive about the "bounce" of english traditional tunes that is unmistakeable - I assume its something to do with morris dancing or somesuch but dont really know - and if irish and scottish music can be accepted (and they must also have influenced the US) then I feel english music should also be. There are some quite brilliant musicians working within the "english tradition" and they deserve wider recognition. I would commend the work of Chris Wood to anyone and everyone.

Of course there are these cultural overlaps all over the english speaking world and songs and music have been collected in England, Ireland, Scotland, the US and Australia etc etc. The english folk song Dives and Lazarus, appears in Ireland as The Star of the County Down and in Scotland under another name (that escapes me) - what this tells me is that these songs and tunes were valued whereever they were taken and that we would do well to value and treasure them also.

There I'm rambling again. I do get carried away:)

Heteronym
11-Jul-2009, 23:43
I'm enjoying Ulrich Schnauss at the moment. He's a German composer who works in the eletronic, techno, trance, synthesizer style. He composes beautiful, harmonic pieces without intrusive lyrics.

heidiadonis
25-Sep-2009, 04:14
I just finished my book. I am celebrating with this music by L?o Ferr?:
"Tu ne dis jamais rien:" YouTube - "Tu ne dis jamais rien" L?o Ferr? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hla6Sw8bI8)
This music is intoxicating. I do not know why he is not as well-known as Jacques Brel.

saliotthomas
25-Sep-2009, 10:06
I just finished my book. I am celebrating with this music by L?o Ferr?:
"Tu ne dis jamais rien:" YouTube - "Tu ne dis jamais rien" L?o Ferr? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hla6Sw8bI8)
This music is intoxicating. I do not know why he is not as well-known as Jacques Brel.


Ha Heidi,he is,there is a famous interview of the three French Titan,Brel,Brassens,Ferr?.
I'll be honest with you,Brel is much much better,Ferr? was a bit of an intellectual,a bit politic,tend to think highly of himself.
My fav fro mhim is "c'est Exta" and i think he sung stuff from Aragon quite well.

heidiadonis
26-Sep-2009, 06:03
saliotthomas, I have to disagree there. I admire Ferr? and Brel equally in different reasons. I can't say one is better than the other when it comes to Ferr? and Brel. Brel certainly has the much better stage presence, but Ferr?'s greatness is as apparent as in his words and in his songs. He wrote and composed most of his songs even though he made songs out of poems of Baudelaire, Rimbaud, Verlaine, Aragon, to name a few. He possibly is more a poet than a singer or entertainer.


But, I know why you like C'est extra because the implication is obvious. I wish you could see my mischievous smile here.

Have you seen this site with many of his song lyrics: L?o Ferr? (http://www.frmusique.ru/texts/f/ferre_leo/ferre.htm?) ?
That side also has Brel's song lyrics.

These are my favorites:
La m?moire et la mer (http://www.frmusique.ru/texts/f/ferre_leo/memoireetlamer.htm)
La solitude (http://www.frmusique.ru/texts/f/ferre_leo/solitude.htm)
La po?sie (http://www.frmusique.ru/texts/f/ferre_leo/poesie.htm)
Avec le temps (http://www.frmusique.ru/texts/f/ferre_leo/avecletemps.htm)
Tu ne dis jamais rien (http://www.frmusique.ru/texts/f/ferre_leo/tunedisjamaisrien.htm)
Yes, I also like C'est extra (http://www.frmusique.ru/texts/f/ferre_leo/cestextra.htm) with or without the sensual implication.

I also have a lot of favorites from Brel's. At least, we enjoy similar songs.

beelzebubbles
26-Sep-2009, 20:15
I just finished my book. I am celebrating with this music by L?o Ferr?:
"Tu ne dis jamais rien:" YouTube - "Tu ne dis jamais rien" L?o Ferr? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hla6Sw8bI8)
This music is intoxicating. I do not know why he is not as well-known as Jacques Brel.

Hello Heidi, do you know of an English translation of this song? My French is almost nonexistent but I read enough to be curious.

heidiadonis
27-Sep-2009, 23:08
I am sorry I do not have the translation in English. Putting mine over here would be presumptuous. Some parts of the poem is surrealistic. A reader walks away with his or her distinct impression.


Je vois la st?r?o dans l'oeil d'une petite
Des pianos sur des ventres de fille ? Paris
Un chimpanz? glac? qui chante ma musique
Avec moi doucement et toi tu n'as rien dit

My rough translation (please forgive me here):
I see the stereo in the eye of a little girl
Pianos on the bellies of girls in Paris
A frozen chimpanzee that sings my music
with me gently and you did not say anything.


Tu ne dis jamais rien tu ne dis jamais rien
Tu pleures quelquefois comme pleurent les b?tes
Sans savoir le pourquoi et qui ne disent rien
Comme toi, l'oeil ailleurs, ? me faire la f?te

My rough translation (please excuse me):
You never say anything you never say anything
You cry sometimes like beasts cry
Without knowing why and who do not say anything
Like you, looking elsewhere, "? me faire la f?te"

"faire la f?te" is what a dog would do welcoming his master, jumping up and down wagging his tail.

Whew... you see you take it as you feel it.

beelzebubbles
28-Sep-2009, 01:02
Thank you HiediAdonis

Tu ne dis jamais rien by Leo Ferre

Je vois le monde un peu comme on voit l'incroyable
L'incroyable c'est ?a c'est ce qu'on ne voit pas
Des fleurs dans des crayons Debussy sur le sable
A Saint-Aubin-sur-Mer que je ne connais pas
Les filles dans du fer au fond de l'habitude
Et des mineurs creusant dans leur ventre tout chaud
Des soutiens-gorge aux chats des patrons dans le Sud
A marner pour les ouvriers de chez Renault
Moi je vis donc ailleurs dans la dimension quatre
Avec la Bande dessin?e chez mc 2
Je suis Demain je suis le ch?ne et je suis l'?tre
Viens chez moi mon amour viens chez moi y a du feu
Je vole pour la peau sur l'aire des mis?res
Je suis un vieux Bœing de l'an quatre-vingt-neuf
Je pars la fleur aux dents pour la derni?re guerre
Ma machine ? ?crire a un complet tout neuf
Je vois la st?r?o dans l'œil d'une petite
Des pianos sur des ventres de fille ? Paris
Un chimpanz? glac? qui chante ma musique
Avec moi doucement et toi tu n'as rien dit

Tu ne dis jamais rien tu ne dis jamais rien
Tu pleures quelquefois comme pleurent les b?tes
Sans savoir le pourquoi et qui ne disent rien
Comme toi, l'œil ailleurs, ? me faire la f?te

Dans ton ventre d?sert je vois des multitudes
Je suis Demain C'est Toi mon demain de ma vie
Je vois des fianc?s perdus qui se d?nudent
Au velours de ta voix qui passe sur la nuit
Je vois des odeurs ti?des sur des pav?s de songe
A Paris quand je suis allong? dans son lit
A voir passer sur moi des filles et des ?ponges
Qui sanglotent du suc de l'?ge de folie
Moi je vis donc ailleurs dans la dimension ixe
Avec la bande dessin?e chez un ami
Je suis Jamais je suis Toujours et je suis l'Ixe
De la formule de l'amour et de l'ennui
Je vois des tramways bleus sur des rails d'enfants tristes
Des paravents chinois devant le vent du nord
Des objets sans objet des fen?tres d'artistes
D'o? sortent le soleil le g?nie et la mort
Attends, je vois tout pr?s une ?toile orpheline
Qui vient dans ta maison pour te parler de moi
Je la connais depuis longtemps c'est ma voisine
Mais sa lumi?re est illusoire comme moi

Et tu ne me dis rien tu ne dis jamais rien
Mais tu luis dans mon cœur comme luit cette ?toile
Avec ses feux perdus dans des lointains chemins
Tu ne dis jamais rien comme font les ?toiles

English translation

You never say anything

I see the world a bit as they see the unconvincing
The unconvincing that's right it is what they do not see
Flowers in pencils Debussy on sand
In Saint-Aubin-sur-Mer that I do not know
The girls in some iron in the bottom of habit
And miners digging in the very hot belly
Bras to the cats of the bosses in the South
In marner for the workers from Renault
Me I saw therefore elsewhere in the dimension four
With the Comic strip to mc 2
I am Tomorrow I am the oak and I am the fireside
Come home my love come home has some fire there
I fly for the skin on the aerie of miseries
I am an old Bœing of the year eighty-nine
I leave the flower to teeth for the last war
My machine to be written has a very new suit
I see stereo in the eye of a baby
Pianos on girl's bellies in Paris
A frozen chimpanzee which sings my music
With me slowly and you you said nothing

You never say anything you never say anything
You sometimes cry as the animals cry
Without knowing why and who say nothing
As you, the eye elsewhere, to live it up to me

In your uninhabited belly I see multitudes
I am Tomorrow It is You my tomorrow of my life
I see lost fianc?es who strip off
In the velvet of your voice which passes on night
I see lukewarm smells on pavings of dream
In Paris when I am lengthened in his bed
To see crossing on me girls and sponges
Which sob of some sap of the age of madness
Me I saw therefore elsewhere in the dimension ixe
With the comic strip at a friend
I am Never I am Always and I am Ixe
Of the expression of love and trouble
I see blue trolley cars on rails of sad children
Chinese screens in front of northerly wind
Groundless objects of artists' windows
Where from take out the sun genius and death
Wait, I see a star orphan very near
Which comes in your home to speak to you of me
I know it for a long time it is my neighbour
But his light is delusive as me

And you say to me nothing you never say anything
But you shine in my heart as this star shines
With his fires lost in distant ways
You never say anything as stars make

I used translation software. What do you think of the result?

heidiadonis
28-Sep-2009, 02:34
You made me listen to this music:
YouTube - Toyota Violin-playing Robot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9sirG0UEGg)

and this:
YouTube - Yehudi Menuhin and David Oistrakh play Bach Double Concerto for Violins - medici.tv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEsiNaC1fU)

and this:
YouTube - Yoon Do-Hyun : Tarzan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m2MVVrcZXY&feature=related)

beelzebubbles
28-Sep-2009, 04:07
Really! What could I have been thinking?

That Oistrakh has such a sweet mellow tone and that Korean boy rocks the house but I am afraid that robot is just a pretty face.

heidiadonis
28-Sep-2009, 05:02
Misunderstanding... my fault!
I was applauding the robot, even with some mistakes. I could do like the robot. But, I can never reach the level of Yehudi Menuhin and David Oistrakh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOEsiNaC1fU)

Then, I felt like going nut like a guy in a rock band.

beelzebubbles
28-Sep-2009, 10:30
I was just joshing. Do you play the violin?

heidiadonis
28-Sep-2009, 19:29
Ha ha... I knew. I thought you were a little mean, but I did not want to give guys a pleasure of seeing a cat fight. This site is really addictive. If I come here too often, I may never finish any of my books.

No, I do not play violin. I listen to them often enough to tell them apart.

beelzebubbles
29-Sep-2009, 03:13
Me? Mean? *checks fangs and claws for blood; they look clean*

I am not mean; I am a pussycat.

Here is some flamenco by way of apology.

YouTube - Flamenco (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPhCIKFkfg4)

heidiadonis
29-Sep-2009, 05:35
Wow, that was a steaming dance! I wish I could understand the song and the comments. We have to be best friends now. Why does one comment say it is not from Spain? Is it because it is a gypsy dance?

Whatever happened while I was gone? There are so many new postings that I cannot possibly read them all. I am going to bed... to sleep on it.

Peace!

beelzebubbles
29-Sep-2009, 08:55
Wow, that was a steaming dance! I wish I could understand the song and the comments. We have to be best friends now. Why does one comment say it is not from Spain? Is it because it is a gypsy dance?

Whatever happened while I was gone? There are so many new postings that I cannot possibly read them all. I am going to bed... to sleep on it.

Peace!

Since the poster who said that had the username of Anduluciaisnotspain, I guess he/she is claiming flamenco for Andulusia.

Here is a link with a little history of flamenco.
Flamenco Dance History (http://www.centralhome.com/ballroomcountry/flamenco_history.htm)

The great thing about visceral music like rock and roll and flamenco is that the lyric is secondary--forget that its probably not even tertiary--for an appreciation of the song. You feel the rhythm in your heart, your belly and your limbs.

That French song on the other hand is very thoughtful. I felt I missed a lot without the lyric.

heidiadonis
02-Oct-2009, 05:52
I did not catch the user name. That is like a Texan claiming that Texas is not in the states. They have identity issues, don't they?

Manuel76
02-Oct-2009, 22:12
Portugal with the beautiful and sad Fado,a sort of blues with the main figure of Cesaria Evora who gave the genre it's popularity



Saliotthomas, if you like Fado, did you listened Amalia Rodrigues. Lots of great recordings like Povo que lavas no rio or Ai Mouraria or Maria Lisboa