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    I'm the last person who should be filling this out, but I'll have fun with it anyways. I'm not particularly familiar with a lot of work from those who had a good chance of receiving the Nobel, though, so my suggestions should be taken with a grain of salt.

    And I still don't have any idea how you get the nice flags into your posts. You old-timers around here know so many tricks!

    Jorge Luis Borges
    Ryszard Kapuschinski
    Lu Xun
    Vladimir Nabokov
    W.H. Auden

    (That's actually not a bad list, if I do say so myself. No women though. The closest contender to my mind [and it is a feeble one at best] would be Virginia Woolf. Maybe Gertrude Stein. I hear great things about Eudora Welty, too. But that is me being locked away in the land of English Literature and knowing so very very little about the writings of the world.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverTheMountains View Post

    And I still don't have any idea how you get the nice flags into your posts. You old-timers around here know so many tricks!
    I used to be able to do that by just adding HTML code for flags but that doesn't seem to work anymore (or maybe I've been doing it wrong), so I'm curious too how people make it.

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    ar.gif Jorge Luis Borges
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    ru.gif Leo Tolstoy
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    And then there are a few for whom I would say possibly such as Virginia Woolf, Simone de Beauvoir, Eugene Ionesco, John Dos Passos, Joseph Conrad, EM Forster, Angela Carter, Natsume Sōseki, and Katherine Mansfield. But this is just slowly turning into a list of authors I enjoy personally, haha.
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    I would say my top 5 are:
    Vladimir Nabokov
    Jorge Luis Borges (I have a feeling he is going to be on EVERYBODY'S list)
    Ryszard Kapuscinski
    W.G. Sebald (just barely makes the cut-off criteria, as he died at 57)
    Jacques Derrida

    Honorable mentions to Mishima, Soseki, Dos Passos, Tolstoy, Lispector, and Greene.

    Gertrude Stein would have been an interesting choice. Her literary output was extremely important, but on its own probably not worth of a Nobel. However, she had a MASSIVE impact on the development of many other writers (notably Hemingway) and artists (Picasso); without her, the entire Lost Generation doesn't coalesce the way it does (heck, without her encouragement Fitzgerald might never have continued writing). She would edit and critique drafts for writers and encourage them in a way that really shaped their works, and general trends in American literature in the middle of the century (until WW2 itself changed things, I would say). It seems unlikely she ever would have won because the Nobel doesn't choose awards that way, but I think it would have been a very satisfying and enlightened choice. I don't think there is any literary figure in history quite like Gertrude Stein in having such a massive impact on literature outside of her specific oeuvre .

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    Thanks Vazquez!

    My absolute number one among writers who are still alive would be Milan Kundera. I really hope he will eventually get it.

    Ryszard Kapuściński

    Yukio Mishima

    Jorge Amado

    Ford Madox Ford

    Alejo Carpentier

    That's a great topic subject but I have to admit it was a lot harder for me then choosing your 5 (or 6 in my case) favourite Nobel winners.

    Edit: Forgotten number 1 of the rules so basically had to rewrite my list. Ugh. I'm still leaving Kundera though. Just because.
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    To hell with 5, all of them should have won it!:

    Jorge Luis Borges
    Julio Cortázar
    Antonio Tabucchi
    Carlos Fuentes
    Harry Mulisch
    Italo Calvino
    Miguel Delibes
    Thomas Bernard
    W.G. Sebald
    Yukio Mishima

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    I nearly totally agree with you, Daniel, only I've never read anything by Delibes

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    Jorge Luis Borges
    Vladimir Nabokov
    James Joyce
    Virginia Woolf
    Marguerite Yourcenar
    Antonio Tabucchi
    Jorge Amado
    Leo Tolstoy
    Julio Cortázar
    Christa Wolf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiffelio View Post
    James Joyce
    Virginia Woolf
    I had the wrong idea that both, Joyce and Woolf, had died younger. The truth is that both were 59 and checking dates both were born and died the same year (1882-1941)
    In fact Woolf was born 8 days earlier and died 75 days after Joyce.

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    Discounting Yukio Mishima who died at age 45, Franz Kafka who barely published in his own lifetime, and Mikhail Bulgakov who died at age 48 and whose masterpiece wasn't published until well after his death, my top 5 are:

    Julio Cortazar

    Kobo Abe

    Vladimir Nabokov

    Carlos Fuentes

    Harry Mulisch

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    England Re: TOP 5 should (and could) have won the Nobel Prize

    Joyce
    Tolstoy
    Borges
    Auden
    Ibsen

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    I think the Academy could award a "Memorial" Nobel Prize every 15 or 25 years to one or more deceased writers who have slipped their judgement when they were alive. It would be a nice way to remedy their fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiffelio View Post
    I think the Academy could award a "Memorial" Nobel Prize every 15 or 25 years to one or more deceased writers who have slipped their judgement when they were alive. It would be a nice way to remedy their fault.
    I can imagine the cantankerous ghost of Thomas Bernhard accosting committee members and demanding to know what the hell took them so long.

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    Other than those already mentioned:

    First, my top five choices:

    Louis-Ferdinand Celine
    Colette
    Arno Schmidt
    Henry James
    Iris Murdoch

    Next, some deserving perpetual candidates
    Graham Greene
    Anna Akhmatova
    Zbigniew Herbert

    And lastly those who died too young or before becoming world famous
    Edith Sodergran
    Marina Tsvetayeva
    Cesar Vallejo
    Franz Kafka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleanthess View Post
    Louis-Ferdinand Celine
    Impossible for him and Ezra Pound after his racial comments. Handke is also banned for life to the prize because of the same situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel del Real View Post
    Impossible for him and Ezra Pound after his racial comments. Handke is also banned for life to the prize because of the same situation.
    Good point, Senor del Real. In that case make my choices:

    Zbigniew Herbert
    Colette
    Arno Schmidt
    Henry James
    Iris Murdoch
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    Jorge Luis Borges
    Leo Tolstoy
    Vladimir Nabokov
    Jorge de Sena
    Václav Havel

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    I'll say "no" to Borges. Daniel's suggestion of Delibes is intriguing (I've read only some stories of his; they were good).

    Mine are:

    Willa Cather
    Karen Blixen
    Natalia Ginzburg
    Mario Rigoni Stern
    Primo Levi
    Julio Ramón Ribeyro

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    3 votes for Jorge Amado, so far; curious, I had no idea the man was so internationally popular and well-regarded.

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