Murakami Haruki

ArcipresteXII

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Murakami has a lot of original imagination. When I read 1Q84 and Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World I thought: “wow this writer is so unique in terms of developing characters and scenarios”. But sometimes, Haruki makes a mistake (just my opinion) for being so ambiguous. Even in 1Q84 the third book I felt like he expanded the book more that it were necessarily. Nevertheless, he is a good writer and his name was always floating around to be a winner of Nobel. Now I am looking forward for reading one of the lastest books: Colorless Tsukuru Tazaki and His Years of Pilgrimage.
 

Ludus

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What a coincidence! I got Men Without Women yesterday, in a trade. I´m like twenty pages into the first story, and it´s pretty fun to read although not too complex or anything. To my taste, far better that any story in Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman.
 

Salixacaena

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I've always loved him and I'd still consider him one of my favorite authors but lately his writing has just gotten really clunky and his recent stuff is completely hit or miss for me. In his last two story collections I encountered what I'd consider both some of his absolute best short stories and some of his absolute worst.

His last novel had so much good going for it but the end just seems like he whiffed on doing something more profound and it ended up being mediocre. On top of that the constant mentions of Google, Facebook, Emails, etc really started to get tacky. The entire portrait style he had his protagonist invent/use was a pretty apparent rip-off of Japanese artist who's been getting a lot of buzz for the last decade or so. I'd been following the artist for a while prior to the novel coming out and as I read it I could just imagine Murakami scrolling through Instagram copying things at will to cram into his novel.
 
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Verkhovensky

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Well then. For all you fans, The Japan Times has finally investigated that burning, perennial question, "Why is the Nobel Prize so elusive for Haruki Murakami?

SPOILER
According to the article, it's primarily the absence of political statements or significance in his books. In addition, the way he portrays women and sex doesn't help, nor does his decision to embrace commercialism.

Also maybe he just isn't good enough. Hall of very good, not Hall of Fame.
 

Uemarasan

Reader
Well then. For all you fans, The Japan Times has finally investigated that burning, perennial question, "Why is the Nobel Prize so elusive for Haruki Murakami?

SPOILER
According to the article, it's primarily the absence of political statements or significance in his books. In addition, the way he portrays women and sex doesn't help, nor does his decision to embrace commercialism.
I don’t think the absence of political statements or significance is necessarily an impediment. Several writers who are not obviously political have won recently.

I think the Swedish Academy just believe he isn’t that great a writer. They wouldn’t be wrong. Murakami has contemporaries who are much better than he is, just less marketed or translated.
 

Leseratte

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I don’t think the absence of political statements or significance is necessarily an impediment. Several writers who are not obviously political have won recently.

I think the Swedish Academy just believe he isn’t that great a writer. They wouldn’t be wrong. Murakami has contemporaries who are much better than he is, just less marketed or translated.
Could you name any of them? It would be nice to know them and compare them with Murakami.
 

Salixacaena

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His writing has become rather uneven release to release since the 2000s started. Had all of his works been of the same quality and had he avoided much of the tacky and embarrassing stuff he’s released since then he likely could have won under the right Academy makeup. He’s just been far too uneven though.

I thought Kafka on the Shore and After Dark were simplistic and childish, at times he seemed to actively be shooting for a much younger audience. Kafka on the Shore I find especially grating.

After the Quake, Blind Willow, 1Q84, and Colorless were all quality and contained some of his best writing. Had he continued on after Colorless in 2013 releasing works of equal quality he’d have had a better shot. Instead he started crapping out bad nonfiction works like On Music and his T Shirt collection book, and several uneven short story collections like Men Without Women and First Person Singular. This slip into commercialism (selling merchandise and Uniqlo collections) can’t help his case.

His last novel could have been great but it seemed like he actively dumbed it down with Google and Facebook references and by neutering the ending. The entire novel seems like it’s leading towards his protagonist literally entering Nazi Germany during the war and confronting Japan’s past but instead he chops off this plot thread and just ties up the ending of the novel sloppily. I think it’s less so the case that he doesn’t write on social or political topics, it’s that he flirts with them half-heartedly but never fully commits.

Someone like Modiano is able to do this (aside from his first few works which fully commit to tackling anti-semitism) because his works nearly all exist in a sort of noir-esque pseudo-political haze where France’s wrong-doing during the war and the author’s own Jewishness are constantly alluded to but rarely ever the sole purpose of the novel. Murakami however just seems to randomly sprinkle in bits of these sorts of things in his works here and there and often times it seems very out of place and slapped together. In The Wind Up Bird Chronicle this approach works despite how messy it is. The only time I really find him doing it well however is his exploration into cults in 1Q84.

It’ll be interesting to see what if any change the recent releases of near universally lauded films based on his works will have. Currently Drive My Car is the best reviewed film of 2021 and is likely to win a Best International Film Oscar. It’ll likely also pick up a Best Picture nomination. Burning in 2018 also received many accolades and extremely high reviews. I doubt it’ll win him a Nobel but if Drive My Car pulls off a surprise Best Picture win it’ll catapult Murakami back into good graces amongst westerners that seem to have alluded him the last few years.

I normally take these sorts of things with a grain of salt but film adaptions may have helped boost Ishiguro and Jelinek. That last Margaret Atwood novel likely wouldn’t exist or have won a Booker without the successful TV adaption The Handmaid’s Tale had.
 
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Salixacaena

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If Bob Dylan can win a Nobel after releasing a Christmas album and selling thousands of T shirts Murakami’s commercialism isn’t what’s stopping him. My point was more so that currently his output is too scattered and watered down to make him appealing as a winner to the Academy. Although who really knows what appeals to them these days. Their last few years have been a mess.
 

ministerpumpkin

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If Bob Dylan can win a Nobel after releasing a Christmas album and selling thousands of T shirts Murakami’s commercialism isn’t what’s stopping him. My point was more so that currently his output is too scattered and watered down to make him appealing as a winner to the Academy. Although who really knows what appeals to them these days. Their last few years have been a mess.

Yeah, my post was poorly expressed and that's why I quickly deleted it, though I wasn't quick enough! I wasn't actually referencing you when I said he was commercial, only that I personally find him so. I agree with the rest of your reply, however. Sorry for the confusion. Murakami befuddles me.

Here's my deleted post so people can see what we're talking about:

I actually finished reading Wind-Up Bird just yesterday and it is easily my least favorite of the four books of his I've read (the others being Norwegian Wood, Kafka on the Shore, and 1Q84). I simply couldn't bring myself to care how he tied everything up. Just complete indifference at the end of a 600 page novel. NW was easily my favorite, but I don't see myself going back to him again unless he publishes something "important." He just seems too watered down and commercial for me as a writer who is clearly trying to create major works, or as a potential Nobel Laureate. The mere idea of that t-shirt book makes me feel itchy.
 
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Uemarasan

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Could you name any of them? It would be nice to know them and compare them with Murakami.
The most important writers of Murakami’s generation are Kenji Nakagami and Yuko Tsushima. Now they’re definitely Nobel-caliber. Unfortunately, they died in 1992 and 2016, respectively. Other living writers much better than Murakami are Mieko Kanai and Noboru Tsujihara.

And those are just writers of fiction. The list becomes a lot longer when poetry and drama are taken into consideration.

The reason why Drive My Car is receiving all this acclaim is because of its superior director, Ryusuke Hamaguchi. It was the same for Burning, which was directed by the greatest Korean director working currently: Lee Chang-dong. If journeyman directors had made those adaptations, the films wouldn’t have turned out so well because of the mediocre source material. Interestingly enough, these two directors are especially well known for their screenwriting. They certainly fleshed out those Murakami stories.
 
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Stevie B

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The most important writers of Murakami’s generation are Kenji Nakagami and Yuko Tsushima. Now they’re definitely Nobel-caliber. Unfortunately, they died in 1992 and 2016, respectively. Other living writers much better than Murakami are Mieko Kanai and Noboru Tsujihara.

I agree with you on Yuko Tsushima, but Noboru Tsujihara is a new name to me. I just ordered a copy of Jasmine and will move that book to the top of the pile once it arrives.
 

Leseratte

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The most important writers of Murakami’s generation are Kenji Nakagami and Yuko Tsushima. Now they’re definitely Nobel-caliber. Unfortunately, they died in 1992 and 2016, respectively. Other living writers much better than Murakami are Mieko Kanai and Noboru Tsujihara.

And those are just writers of fiction. The list becomes a lot longer when poetry and drama are taken into consideration.

The reason why Drive My Car is receiving all this acclaim is because of its superior director, Ryusuke Hamaguchi. It was the same for Burning, which was directed by the greatest Korean director working currently: Lee Chang-dong. If journeyman directors had made those adaptations, the films wouldn’t have turned out so well because of the mediocre source material. Interestingly enough, these two directors are especially well known for their screenwriting. They certainly fleshed out those Murakami stories.
Thanks, Uemarasan :). I´m going to look for their books. The truth is, I have read only some of Murakami´s short stories and I missed the film Burning so I can't argue with full knowledge of his fiction. But his style in these short stories (The elephant vanishes) strikes me as something new and original.
 
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