hayden
Well-known member
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I know, I know...
Woops.
She was genuinely written off for me. I didn't see that coming at all.
Nobel Prize in Literature 2020
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I know, I know...
Woops.
She was genuinely written off for me. I didn't see that coming at all.
DouglasM
Reader
Regarding the choice: did not expect it at all. On the one hand, I was disappointed, because once again (as if it still needed confirmation), the Swedish Academy speaks to and from a very privileged place in the world. On the other hand, Louise Glück really looks like a powerful literary voice and I will read her books with an open heart.
Starting with A Village Life now.
Starting with A Village Life now.
redhead
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I think she’s 78, not sure how much time she has left
Bartleby
Moderator
From The New York Times, this quote:
Again I love this external committee lady; she and Mikaela Blomqvist have really surprised me ?
Again I love this external committee lady; she and Mikaela Blomqvist have really surprised me ?
redhead
Blahblahblah
These have never exactly been high energy announcements, but seriously, Malm sounded like he was in the middle of a depressive episode
Bagharu
Reader
I suppose many of you have already heard this conversation. I really liked her persona, and how she is concerned about her personal life and dear ones (and also how she frankly talked about the practical side of the award ? ). Hm, after all those politically and socially active writers, here we get someone who cherishes personal seclusion.
Bartleby
Moderator
Stevie B
Current Member
I have been playing catch-up on poets since I steered away from poetry for the longest time (I think I lacked the patience as a younger man). An America poet who I have read and admired is Mary Oliver. I'm curious, Liam, if Oliver hadn't passed away a couple of years ago, would you have preferred her winning to Glück?
Bagharu
Reader
@Isahoinp I have a question for you. The Nobel library has a huge, I mean a huge collection of authors. How did you narrow down your search to such a small number? As far as I remember, no one was seriously considering Gluck (except one or two, but she never got momentum, and sorry for the misspelling), I mean, unlike Carson or Can Xue, Simic, even I suppose people here talked about Kincaid more than her, but you did look her up. Any insight you want to share?
nagisa
Spiky member
Even for a Swede, that was grey ?
hayden
Well-known member
Wish it was. Glück could have split with with a number of writers. Perhaps a Glück/Carson split was legitimately on the table?
Push Han Kang down a couple years and add Duong Thu Huong
If the 80s can be all men, you never know.
Liam
Administrator
Stevie, you know I love, and have always loved, Mary Oliver. I haven't read enough of Gluck to compare (or contrast) them against each other, so I simply don't know. Had Mary Oliver won, it would have been a most deserving choice, in my opinion.
Bartleby
Moderator
As for Glück, I remember back in the beginning of the year on the (now defunct) Nobel library thread, I happened to have searched her name and noticed a vast number of titles checked out, after which Marba mentioned she had just won the Tranströmer Prize, of which Wästberg is a juror, so it could have been him checking those books for the purposes of the aforementioned award; so I guess that diminished the talk around her a bit...
He was talking about women with considerable books checked out from the library. I know he wouldn’t, but I’d put Robinson in there, maybe there’ll even be time enough for another novel, who knows. A highly deserving winner she would be.and add Duong Thu Huong
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Dante
Wild Reader
I'm very happy about this year's choice, as always when a poet gets the Nobel prize. I was rooting for Anne Carson, but Glück is a safe choice too. For whatever it's worth, I can see a playwright winning the Prize soon enough (Fosse? Strauß?) and – probably – another woman next year, so that we'd two female winners in a row for the first time.
Bagharu
Reader
Are you nuts man, that's brutal! ( if anything, I must commend your perseverance)
Bartleby
Moderator
Relax. If all goes well, and they don’t keep changing permanent secretaries as they have recently every couple of years, y’all will probably “only” have to endure his listless character for some 8 years more ?
hayden
Well-known member
Maybe next year they'll get Cardi B.
Sisyphus
Reader
So, in the 2019 Speculation thread, in May to be more precise, Bartleby pointed out that Can Xue had 10 books checked out. Shortlist maybe?
Yang Lian had 5 books.
Louise Glück had 5 in July.
Friederike Mayröcker had 13
Yang Lian had 5 books.
Louise Glück had 5 in July.
Friederike Mayröcker had 13
Nobel Prizes in Literature 2019 Speculation
Yeah that part of my post was less “these people should win” (although Wolfe and le Guin both would’ve been deserved laureates), and more “these are cool writers you should check out.”
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The best thing to come out of this is that Jorie Graham, Carolyn Forche, and Sharon Olds are probably not getting any Nobels anytime soon. At least Louise Gluck has actual poetic talent.
By the way, is it just coincidence that Dylan and Gluck were both chosen during election years in the US?
By the way, is it just coincidence that Dylan and Gluck were both chosen during election years in the US?
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