Liam
Administrator
Wait... does this mean that a last minute vote may change everything yet again? LOL
WLF Prize in Literature 2022
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Bartleby
Moderator
Who knows. There are several members who were active during Nobel Speculation time that I sent the link to, a couple of them did fill the form, something I honestly didn't expect, so everything's possible
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Stevie B
Current Member
I'm guessing there's at least a little hyperbole behind this quote. If not, you remind me of a friend who considers anything written after Beowulf as modern fiction drivel.
Papageno
Well-known member
Who knows. There are several members who were active during Nobel Speculation time that I sent the link to, a couple of them did fill the form, something I honestly didn't expect, so everything's possible
Oh, this is so exciting! Almost like waiting for Mats Malm to mutter the name of the Nobel laureate. I am very eager to see whether my oh-so-subtle subliminal messaging worked!
Cleanthess
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Thanks for organizing this, and congrats on becoming a moderator.
Bartleby
Moderator
Thanks! I hope to keep growing and do good to this community
Bartleby
Moderator
Good morning, everyone!
Without further delay:
There were 34 nominations proposed; they are as follows (by order of submission):
By a system of points (in which the candidate in spot 1 received 3 points; the one in spot 2 received 2 points; and the one in spot 3 received 1 point) this is the final list by order of points received:
So as you can see, the top three authors are:
Javier Marías 14
Fleur Jaeggy 14
Gerald Murnane 12
For the time being, these will be the writers to be discussed.
As from last year, we had 19 votes over the number of writers to be on the shortlist, with 11 people voting for it to consist of three authors. If anyone wants to revisit this rule, or to suggest some revisions for this year's shortlist in particular, or any other proposal, just say so, and we can come to an agreement.
That's it for now. I am really thankful to everyone for submitting their nominations! I hope we can have fun discussions about these writers' works
Without further delay:
There were 34 nominations proposed; they are as follows (by order of submission):
By a system of points (in which the candidate in spot 1 received 3 points; the one in spot 2 received 2 points; and the one in spot 3 received 1 point) this is the final list by order of points received:
So as you can see, the top three authors are:
Javier Marías 14
Fleur Jaeggy 14
Gerald Murnane 12
For the time being, these will be the writers to be discussed.
As from last year, we had 19 votes over the number of writers to be on the shortlist, with 11 people voting for it to consist of three authors. If anyone wants to revisit this rule, or to suggest some revisions for this year's shortlist in particular, or any other proposal, just say so, and we can come to an agreement.
That's it for now. I am really thankful to everyone for submitting their nominations! I hope we can have fun discussions about these writers' works
Bartleby
Moderator
If you follow the timeline of nominations you can see what a rollercoaster this was! Basically the 5 top writers kept switching places, Marías being very much stablished from the beginning, Lobo Antunes and Duong Thu Huong also holding up for a long while, with Jaeggy and Murnane rising slowly and steadily by the end, taking the top positions finally.
Edit: also, regardless of ranked positions, Jaeggy, Marías, and Murnane got the most nominations, 8, 7, and 6 respectively. Followed by 5 for Lobo Antunes and 4 by Duong Thu Huong.
Edit: also, regardless of ranked positions, Jaeggy, Marías, and Murnane got the most nominations, 8, 7, and 6 respectively. Followed by 5 for Lobo Antunes and 4 by Duong Thu Huong.
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tiganeasca
Moderator
Wow. Golly. Who'd have thought? Well, Murnane is there...Liam will be happy. I'm mostly, uh, speechless. I've read a lot of Jaeggy, a little Marias, and no Murnane. So I guess I know what's moved up my list! Thanks for all your hard work, Gabriel!Good morning, everyone!
Without further delay:
There were 34 nominations proposed; they are as follows (by order of submission):
By a system of points (in which the candidate in spot 1 received 3 points; the one in spot 2 received 2 points; and the one in spot 3 received 1 point) this is the final list by order of points received:
So as you can see, the top three authors are:
Javier Marías 14
Fleur Jaeggy 14
Gerald Murnane 12
For the time being, these will be the writers to be discussed.
As from last year, we had 19 votes over the number of writers to be on the shortlist, with 11 people voting for it to consist of three authors. If anyone wants to revisit this rule, or to suggest some revisions for this year's shortlist in particular, or any other proposal, just say so, and we can come to an agreement.
That's it for now. I am really thankful to everyone for submitting their nominations! I hope we can have fun discussions about these writers' works
P.S. Have to add: the nominations list(s) are absolutely fascinating! Without trying to start a major tangential debate, considering the number of votes cast, I'm disappointed at the number of African writers on the list. A quick count is about 8 (totalling only 18 votes out of 102 cast)...I may have missed a couple. Still, all in all, I find that a sad number. Also fascinating that one person actually picked all three "winners"...the very last vote cast got them all "right"! And clearly made a difference in the final outcome.
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tiganeasca
Moderator
P.P.S. Recommendations, please. Since I am not familiar (enough) with either Marias or Murnane, could those who are familiar with their work take a moment and make a recommendation or two for those of us who don't know where to start? Thanks.
From my reading of Jaeggy, I would personally say that either Sweet Days of Discipline or Last Vanities (a collection of stories)--both of which are short (about 100 pages each)--would be a good introduction to her style and themes.
From my reading of Jaeggy, I would personally say that either Sweet Days of Discipline or Last Vanities (a collection of stories)--both of which are short (about 100 pages each)--would be a good introduction to her style and themes.
namelesshere
Reader
2 people picked all 3 winners actually!
Very excited to re-read some Marias, read some more Murnane, and try Jaeggy out!
Leseratte
Well-known member
Hearty thanks for undertaking this with so much precision and transparency, Bartleby!?Good morning, everyone!
Without further delay:
There were 34 nominations proposed; they are as follows (by order of submission):
By a system of points (in which the candidate in spot 1 received 3 points; the one in spot 2 received 2 points; and the one in spot 3 received 1 point) this is the final list by order of points received:
So as you can see, the top three authors are:
Javier Marías 14
Fleur Jaeggy 14
Gerald Murnane 12
For the time being, these will be the writers to be discussed.
As from last year, we had 19 votes over the number of writers to be on the shortlist, with 11 people voting for it to consist of three authors. If anyone wants to revisit this rule, or to suggest some revisions for this year's shortlist in particular, or any other proposal, just say so, and we can come to an agreement.
That's it for now. I am really thankful to everyone for submitting their nominations! I hope we can have fun discussions about these writers' works
Bartleby
Moderator
@tiganeasca I was a bit sad Lobo Antunes didn't make it, especially since he was looking so good overall, but I'm pleased with the authors we've got. I've been putting off reading Marías and Murnane for way too long, and Jaeggy is an interesting name, one I'd heard of even before being a member here, from a recommendation by a reputed Brazilian literary critic, so reading her is also long overdue.
Well, as I said, I haven't read any of the writers, but I keep seeing people recommending A Heart So White by Marías, and The Plains by Murnane as introductions to their works.
Well, as I said, I haven't read any of the writers, but I keep seeing people recommending A Heart So White by Marías, and The Plains by Murnane as introductions to their works.
Abhi
Well-known member
The way the nominations culminated is a ride. Really surprised how Lobo Antunes went outside top 3 after so many mentions. Really excited for the shortlist.
Is there any book by Marias that would be a good introduction to his oeuvre but is shorter?
Is there any book by Marias that would be a good introduction to his oeuvre but is shorter?
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm extremely pumped up to finally start reader Jaeggy after hearing about her so much!
Bartleby
Moderator
A Man of Feeling is quite shorter, All Souls as well. It was A Heart... that seemed to have stablished his reputation as a serious writer, tho, at least in the English-speaking world, winning the International Literary Dublin Award.
It's interesting to note that Dark Back of Time seems to be a metafictional novel dealing with the response All Souls got and issues of writing as well, and storytelling, a theme that apparently runs along his whole oeuvre. Later in his career you see many other connections among his books, Berta Isla and his latest, Tomás Nevinson (yet untranslated) having recurring characters.
from the beginning of Your Face Tomorrow:
His works, from what I've read about them, and from the bits I've read from them, seem to be highly digressive, something that can be a pleasure to many, but also put others off.
redhead
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Nice list! Seeing Lobo Antunes in fourth makes me sad we’re not doing four again, but these three are all great
