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waalkwriter

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I don't really agree with what Eric is saying, but I do believe WLF would be genuinely impoverished by his absence and the absence of his endlessly playful and witty conversation. The WLF is not a lecture hall, I hope it never becomes one. The WLF is more like a coffee shop people drop into where there happens to be people with uproarious personalities discussing literature. Things may degenerate into lewd jokes and compliment-swapping, but the atmosphere is never degenerate.

I think that this is a fantastic way to put it.
 

Mirabell

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Yeah, like yesterday's post eh? That was reasonable conversation indeed.

Maybe one of the 332 threads I started? Most of which are book and writer centered.
http://www.worldliteratureforum.com/forum/search.php?searchid=21605

Although Eric has 428, half of them are variations on his "I know nothing about country X but let's pick a fight" or his "why is X important", or about the Royal Wedding.
http://www.worldliteratureforum.com/forum/search.php?searchid=21606&pp=

Thing is, if I write silly stuff, it's a few posts out of a total of 4215 posts.

Among the 32 threads you started there are a whopping six (in numbers: 6) on writers or books. http://www.worldliteratureforum.com/forum/search.php?searchid=21613&pp=



funny thing, numbers. and archives. you can look stuff up.
 
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Loki

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Yeah, maybe the problem is this: you already know everything, and so you post links to teach us all, Eric starts thread where people can discuss. And if he knows nothing about country X, differently from you maybe, he does that to learn something from others. Which, incidentally, is not among your list of qualities, since a lot of your posts are things like "I like his novels", "he sucks" and "oh, Mr. X said he is a good writer: then it's an idiot" (of course I'm paraphrasing).

Thing is, by the way, that having 4216 posts doesn't allow you to post, say, 500 silly posts because in comparison with 4216 they are few posts. Funny thing, numbers, right?
 

Mirabell

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Thing is, by the way, that having 4216 posts doesn't allow you to post, say, 500 silly posts because in comparison with 4216 they are few posts. Funny thing, numbers, right?

is that an exact number? I suppose you did an exact breakdown on Eric's thread, too? You know, numbers are only helpful if they are exact.


he does that to learn something from others

yeah, you know, if he asked questions, i wouldn't be bothered. He makes factual assertions. That bothers me.


and get your story straight. It's either this

so you post links to teach us all,

or this

a lot of your posts are things like "I like his novels", "he sucks" and "oh, Mr. X said he is a good writer: then it's an idiot"


pick one.




Also, I admit, I like informal babble about books. Academia is annoying enough to make me want to kick back and talk about books I like with people who also like books. So I'll log on and post: I like this book. I looove this writer. You are welcome to ask for details and chances are, I can provide them, but mainly, I like to talk about books I like.

Of course, your six (in numbers: 6) posts on books are much more helpful.
 

Loki

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With so many posts you can have a lot of posts per "type", so you can do all the counts you want.

I didn't write you shouldn't say "I love this or that", etc., nor that one should only post long reviews of books.

And I'm not annoyed by your comments: if I'm not interested (not because you are you but because of the topic) I can ignore the post myself.
 

Liam

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Leave the kid alone, M, :). You know, numbers are relative. Some people don't post as much as you or Eric or (formerly) Titania; doesn't mean they're not as invested in literature as you are.

Loki's probably been busy perfecting his Russian. How did that test go? Надеюсь, что всё хорошо?
 

Mirabell

Former Member
Leave the kid alone, M, :). You know, numbers are relative. Some people don't post as much as you or Eric or (formerly) Titania; doesn't mean they're not as invested in literature as you are?


No, I was just defending myself (he started it!). =)
 

Loki

Reader
я*думаю*всё*хорошо, спaсибо.*я*жду the results now!

Mirabell, this message appeared when I tried to answer:
Mirabell has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.
 

Liam

Administrator
я*думаю*всё*хорошо, спaсибо.*я*жду the results now.
Отлично, :).

You know, Loki, when I first joined the forum in Oct 2008, Mirabell called my first EVER post (I forget which thread it was) a "useless rant." The fact that I remember the exact phrase testifies that I must have been scarred for life, :p. And now look at us, we're like the best of buds in a thoroughly dysfunctional friendship!
 

Eric

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Would it not be possible to have a section for Middle Eastern Literature, to cover Arabic, Israeli, Iranian literature? These countries and languages seem to somehow fall between two stools and don't really belong in African, Asian or European literature, unless we start chopping especially Arabic literature up into component parts.
 

JTolle

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Would it not be possible to have a section for Middle Eastern Literature, to cover Arabic, Israeli, Iranian literature? These countries and languages seem to somehow fall between two stools and don't really belong in African, Asian or European literature, unless we start chopping especially Arabic literature up into component parts.

I'll second that.
 

Mirabell

Former Member
I'll second that.


Ideally, I would agree, but wouldn't that section be too small? And it's just about roughly grouping together. Football groups have an asian, american, european group, and the middle eastern countries fall into these groups. I think that works plenty fine.
 

Eric

Former Member
Mirabell may have a point. But it depends on whether the lack of a clear section has stopped people talking about the literature of Israel, the Arab countries and Iran, or whether there was never any interest in the first place. I have mentioned the magazine Banipal several times for Arab literature, but little reaction has ensued. Also, there are those among us who are not sure whether or not Israeli literature should be ignored - because it comes from the Zionist Entity. Iran is a bit of an unknown quantity. Whether there are men and women in the present circumstances who are able to produce and get translated significant works of literature is hard to tell.

But suffice it to say that I hardly think there is anyone on these many threads who is an expert on Iranian, Arabic and Israeli literature.

It's rather similar with African literature. People tend to like to mention African authors and books, but the section stands stagnant for long periods at a time. Given the fact this is a huge continent, but with a lot of illiteracy, it is hard to tell whether we on the WLF are doing African literature justice. I have, for instance, an anthology called "Dreams, Miracles and Jazz" (2008) but never get round to reading the twenty-something stories there.
 

Mirabell

Former Member
Also, there are those among us who are not sure whether or not Israeli literature should be ignored - because it comes from the Zionist Entity.

who? who exactly in the wlf? I have never seen anyone make that claim. So out with it, be honest now, old chap.

Or are you lying again, and in the course of which insulting a whole forum?
 

JTolle

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I think everyone at WLF appreciates the insights and knowledge you both bring to the forum, but sometimes it's frustrating to see you sniping at and criticizing each other so often. I've always liked the type of banter that arises in these discussions, but could you guys just try to ignore each other for a while?

I do, admittedly, bristle at the implications a phrase like "the Zionist Entity" calls forth, unintended as they may be.
 

Eric

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My use of the phrase "the Zionist Entity" was absolutely deliberate, to highlight the way that many benighted people in Europe regard Israel (the only democracy in the Middle East).

I have been posting exceptionally unsubtle depths charges on this forum recently, which now seems sadly totally unpoliced. Stewart McCabney has disappeared, and so has Bjorn. This means that the WLF has become a free-for-all, where certain immature individuals can get away with the nastiest of insults. I have now resorted to ridicule (as a change from taking a week off the forum) in the hope that the inactive monitor may stop people calling me a fascist, racist, and other directly insulting and unacceptable things. If I called JTolle any of these things, she would understandably be upset. I can't take these teenage taunts any longer. Next time someone calls you personally a fascist or racist, JTolle, feel free to complain. But who is there to complain to, now that the monitor has vanished? So I have resorted to heavy-handed ridicule in lieu of anything better, in order to return the discussions back to an adult level.
 
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